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 gogolesque

link 22.11.2005 11:31 
Subject: HELP
WHAT CAN THIS BE???? (i think i asked yesturday, but its still not a solved problem)
О обязательства по поставке ценных бумаг и перечислению денежных средств по заключенным сделкам; = Obligations/debts/bonds for securities delivery/ for delivery of securities and transfer of funds for concluded transactions;

i am thinking Debts for securities delivery and the transfer of funds for concluded transactions

THANKS!

MY TRANSLATION:
NW= MF + S + C – O - OC, where

NW Net worth of Assets;
MF Monetary funds for trust management;;
S Securities for trust management;
C Claims on the securities delivery and the transfer of funds for concluded transactions;
O Obligations/debts/bonds for securities delivery/ for delivery of securities and transfer of funds for concluded transactions;
OC Overhead Costs.

ORIGINAL:
ЧА= ДС + ЦБ + Т – О - Р, где

ЧА стоимость чистых Актив;
ДС денежные средства, находящиеся в доверительном управлении;
ЦБ ценные бумаги, находящиеся в доверительном управлении;
Т требования по поставке ценных бумаг и перечислению денежных средств по заключенным сделкам;
О обязательства по поставке ценных бумаг и перечислению денежных средств по заключенным сделкам;
Р операционные расходы.

 gogolesque

link 22.11.2005 12:12 
no ideas, huh?

 alex.k

link 22.11.2005 12:36 
Your translation is correct, what's the question? Obligations to deliver securities and transfer funds for transactions concluded.

 Miff

link 22.11.2005 12:54 
I think in yor case 'обязательства' means 'obligations' and not anything else. (I'd like to see more context, though, in order to be 100% sure).
I'd also change the preposition (you are a native speaker and might know better) into 'Monetary Funds in Trust Management (same with securities in trust management)
c: Securities and funds receivable(i think this is what they mean) under concluded transactions.
O Securities and funds to be paid out under concluded transactions;
Операционные расходы = operational expenses (costs)
This is IMHO only, as i do not know all the necessary context.

 gogolesque

link 22.11.2005 13:02 
alex k.
are you sure it is
Obligations to deliver securities and transfer funds for transactions concluded.
and not Debts for securities delivery and transfer or funds for concluded transactions???

 alex.k

link 22.11.2005 13:22 
I don't understand your doubts. It means that the company is obliged to deliver securities under concluded transactions and pay money under other concluded transactions. This is part of its debt, therefore it is subtracted while calculating net assets - imho.

 Miff

link 22.11.2005 13:32 
2 gogolesque
Am I being ignored? Please let me know what you think of my version, I don't think it's trash.

 gogolesque

link 22.11.2005 13:34 
Miff.
no one is being ignored. i dont do that kind of thing.
i am still just having serious doubts today, but its probably because i am tired, stressed out and have to get this contract done YESTUR-YEAR.
i think i am going to stick with obligations though - the bankers seemed to like it:)

 Miff

link 22.11.2005 13:37 
OK, good luck with getting the thing done, then.

 gogolesque

link 22.11.2005 13:38 
miff.
thanks. its actually being checked by the POWERS now... i hope there wont be any questions... i am too tired (phsycially) and too tired of this contract to explain anything to them :(

 alex.k

link 22.11.2005 13:42 
To Miff - your version is fine, it is another rewording of the same thing. Whichever wording you prefer. To Gogolesque: is it the wording that worries you? The meaning is clear. The appropriate wording is a finer issue, but I am sure you can word it so that it is clear. If you think your issue is still unresolved, please write to my e-mail.

 Miff

link 22.11.2005 13:56 
2 gogolesque
Yeah, I know what you mean. I still have a huge load of stuff to do, but my head just refuses. Took a little time to distract from a stupid interface due, like you said, 'yestur-year' :) Gees, why must things always be done in such overdrive? :'( Oh, well... As my girlfriens says, в дороге кормить никто не обещал :))))

 

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