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 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 12:04 
Subject: Help needed: audio (BrE)
http://videos.bodybuilding.com/watch/72772/dorian-yates-blood-guts-trainer-back

00:23 - 00:33

"We're doing the pullovers first, because it's isolating the lats without any biceps involvement.
...link... lat exercise, you biceps is going to give way."

Мне думается, он говорит: "If you're using the weak link in lat exercises, your biceps is gonna give way".

Нужна Ваша помощь. Большое спасибо!

 AVPro

link 24.07.2011 12:31 
We're doing Э-Э-Э pullovers first
it's isolating the lats without ____ biceps involvement.
Потом, наверно, THEY - пропущенный кусок (огрех) при монтаже:
... are usually the weak link in lat excercises...

 AVPro

link 24.07.2011 12:32 
youR biceps is gonna give way

 Анна Ф

link 24.07.2011 12:43 
We're doing the pullovers first, because it's isolating the lats without biceps involvement, are usually the weak link in the lat exercises ...biceps gonna give way. So we are just trying to work the lats...

 Анна Ф

link 24.07.2011 12:44 
...without having (any) biceps involvement...

 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 12:46 
Спасибо.

AVPro, посмотрите, пожалуйста ещё один малюсенький отрывок. Я уже миллион раз его прослушал - to no avail. Настолько привыкают уши к одному и тому же, что другие варианты не показываются.

01:02 - 01:04

"I forgot?..."

 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 12:48 
или I thought

I thought you couldn't come (or count) past ten ?

 AVPro

link 24.07.2011 12:51 
На слух и по губам forgot

 AMOR 69

link 24.07.2011 13:00 
Ten... I forgot to tell, you can pass ten...eleven...

 AVPro

link 24.07.2011 13:16 
Это шутка у него такая:
Ах, я забыл, ты же только до 10 считать умеешь.

 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 13:30 
Huge thanks!

This one too is over my head...

07:30 - 07:37

"If you got reps/rest?, you can just do it next hour?"

 HarryWharton&Co

link 24.07.2011 13:34 
Nice Mr. Yates says:

"We're doing the pullovers first, because it's isolating the lats without biceps involvement. Usually the weak link in a lat exercise is the biceps is gonna give way. So we're just gonna work the ,lats without having any biceps involvement. If we had the pullover machine, that's ideal, because that's full range all the way round, whereas a dumbell is only half-range. But we'll work with what we got; that's what we got today, so we'll use dumbells. Good.. Good.... Good.... From there man, yeah? Good. Ten....I forgot you couldn;t count past ten. That's eleven."

 AVPro

link 24.07.2011 13:47 
...you can just do it from there to start with, you know.

 HarryWharton&Co

link 24.07.2011 13:49 
07.30 +

Nice Mr Yates says:

"I'll just do the initial one from the floor. I'm just going here, so if you got reps,, you can just to do it from there to 12. Keep your head up, keep your back flat,. You never wanna lift with your back rounded like that; you're putting your back in a very vulnerable position"

 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 13:51 
HarryWharton&Co,

your help is highly appreciated. Merci. The "pullover machine" part was really hard, as I was getting "Try to pull over the machine outside here", but now this doubt has entirely been dispersed.

I got two more I've been struggling with.

07:47 - 07:53
"Our initial lift is..."

08:11 - 08:20
"When you tap? tap higher?.... (up to 08:20)" (this dialogue is so tough to get)

 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 14:01 
Really reminds me of that cool video of yours about the Scots in the elevator!

 AVPro

link 24.07.2011 14:08 
Hi, Harry.
This time you MUST be joking. Are you sure about 7:36 to 7:37 (...to 12...)?

 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 14:09 
tug, tug higher?

Our initial lift from the floor is more .... than glutes.

 HarryWharton&Co

link 24.07.2011 14:11 
Tamerlane. Glad you liked the vid. Yates is a northerner, which could be making things a bit trickier for you. That said, if you've understood the rest. I take my hat of to you!

07.47+

Nice Mr Yates says:

"The initial lift from the floor is more quads and glutes, that's why after you've lifted it from the floor you're going to mid-shin; so we're just keeping it on the back. Keeping the tension on the back."

08.11+
"Maybe just a tad, a tad higher, you know. You;ve gotta go down to the...."
"Maybe with some more weight?"
"You work your legs more once you get down to the bottom. It's like mid-shin, keep it nice and tight, Keep it on the back."

 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 14:12 
"is more quads than glutes!" I guess I got it now. This accent is so tough to get, with all that noise in the gym.

 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 14:15 
Harry, thank you very much! Is there any way to reach you? I've got something to offer you. I've got my email on my page.

 HarryWharton&Co

link 24.07.2011 14:17 
AVPRo: yeah, it's a murky bit, but I think I hear Mr. Yates correctly. It's logical at least. 12 reps - pretty standard rep number for the iron-pumpin' community. What d'you think he says?

 HarryWharton&Co

link 24.07.2011 14:20 
Tamerlane. Thanks. I'll be in touch over the next few days. Can't imagine what you mean , and certainly don't want anything for trying to help. Cheers!

 AVPro

link 24.07.2011 14:21 
To Harry:
see my post at 16:47. "to start with" - it is also logical - its a Warmup set

 AVPro

link 24.07.2011 14:24 
apostrophe missing in my previuos post "it's a Warmup set "

 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 14:27 
AVPRo, I really appreciate your taking the time to go through this stuff. Some of the parts of this video are so tough to digest. In that particular case, he really DOES say "12". I've listened to it so many times that after being presented with something accurate I find it falling so neatly into place. Thanks again.

 Tamerlane

link 24.07.2011 14:31 
Harry, when you get a chance just send me an email. TY.

 HarryWharton&Co

link 24.07.2011 14:33 
AVRro: Well, just listened to the part in question another 3 times. I still hear "you can just do it from there to 12".

 AVPro

link 24.07.2011 15:53 
Interesting. Seems I will have to consult my English friends.
I'll be back:)
but not today...

 AVPro

link 1.08.2011 7:21 
As I said it was interesting to discuss it, and even more interesting to me how it was possible that, unlike others, we (first me, then Harry) as one, got the phrase at 01:34 (“ I forgot you couldn't count past ten”), where I gave it in Russian (“я забыл, ты же только до 10 считать умеешь”), but another phrase (at 7:36) was so difficult for you.

So, below are relevant parts of my letter to a former boss of mine (an Englishman) and his reply (we use a special way of starting letters to each other, but never mind:).
--------My letter:---------
“Zdravstvuite, dear Mr. …!
I need to understand a couple of words (4 seconds actually) in a video, which seem clear to me but I must be sure I got them correctly.
I need to know exactly what Mr. Yates says
1) between "I forgot" (at 01:03) and "That's eleven" (at 01:05), and
2) between "So" (at 07:34) and "Keep the head up" (at 07:37).

Disclaimer: I am not a bodybuilder :) ”
-----End of my letter------

--------The reply:-----------
“Zdravstvuite, mon cher Sasha!
Very intriguing - no need to be shy, be proud that you wish to be the new Arnold…
To be serious, it reads at 01.34 ' I forgot you couldn't count past ten; that's eleven'
and at 07.34 ' So if you have the racks, you can do it from there to start with, you know. Keep the head up'

The context for this is that he does it from the floor, but if you have the racks.........
I hope this helps and assume that this is important to you to provide a translation to a very big (in every sense) client!”
-----End of reply------

As you can see I did not mention our variants to him.

Unlike my former boss, I hope, Tamerlane, that you transcribed the video for yourself, not for a very big (in every sense) client!:) And I wish you good luck in “earbuilding”.

Yours, and with all respect, AVPro

 Tamerlane

link 1.08.2011 10:57 
AVPro, I sincerely appreciate your taking the time to get to the heart of the matter. I just wish I could contract some of this work to some Englishman for him to transcribe it and for me to translate it afterwards.

 HarryWharton&Co

link 1.08.2011 11:15 
AVPro. Many thanks! English your former boss may be, but then so am I. As to who hears better, well, who can say? Personally, I think Tamerlane made a cracking effort, bearing in mind the accent and background noise...

 AVPro

link 1.08.2011 12:23 
Tamerlane, well, I think it will be difficult to make an offer they cannot refuse to the men I know, but you could cooperate with locals good in these things. Maybe you should find one to check your work after you complete it.
Harry, for me it was not a matter of who hears better. It was a matter of "believing my ears".

 

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