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 tumanov

link 30.03.2018 10:38 
Subject: офф О происхождении некоторых выражений gen.
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History

Posted: 28 Mar 2018 04:40 PM PDT
“They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot. Once a day it was taken and sold to the tannery.

If you had to do this to survive, you were ‘piss poor.’

But worse than that were the really poor folks who couldn’t even afford to buy a pot. They ‘didn’t have a pot to piss in’ and were considered the lowest of the low.”

“Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by June.

However, since they were starting to smell, brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.

Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.”

“Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water.

The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women, and finally the children. Last of all the babies.

By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, ‘Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water!’”

“Houses had thatched roofs with thick straw-piled high and no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof.

When it rained, it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, ‘It’s raining cats and dogs.’

There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed.

Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That’s how canopy beds came into existence.”

“The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the term, ‘dirt poor.’

The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing.

As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way.

Hence, ‘a thresh hold.’”

“In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day, they lit the fire and added things to the pot.

They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day.

Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme, ‘Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old.’

Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off.

It was a sign of wealth that a man could ‘bring home the bacon.’ They would cut off a little to share with guests, and would all sit around and ‘chew the fat.’”

“Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death.

This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the ‘upper crust.’”

“Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days.

Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.

They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.

Hence the custom of holding a ‘wake.’”

“In old, small villages, local folks started running out of places to bury people.

So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave.

When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside, and they realized they had been burying people alive.

So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.

Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (‘the graveyard shift’) to listen for the bell.

Thus, someone could be ‘saved by the bell,’ or was considered a ‘dead ringer.’

 Wlastas

link 30.03.2018 11:05 
Про мытье один раз в году в мае - это где такое было?

 Yippie

link 30.03.2018 11:12 

 Denisska

link 30.03.2018 11:39 
Отличный пятничный пост.

tumanov, mes respects!

 Susan

link 30.03.2018 13:54 
Очень забавно! Но ведь собаки не могли жить под крышей, чтобы падать оттуда вместе с кошками?

 wise crocodile

link 30.03.2018 14:25 
Я думаю raining cats and dogs имеет то же происхождение, что и наши "холод собачий" и "хороший хозяин собаку не выпустит"

 Lonely Knight

link 30.03.2018 14:30 
дискляймер-то посмотрите
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/life-in-the-1500s.html

 Wolverine

link 30.03.2018 14:51 

 leka11

link 30.03.2018 15:45 
"дискляймер-то посмотрите" - )))) в самом деле забавно

прим.
""It's raining cats and dogs." [So, the dogs and cats live inside the roof keeping warm (how a dog can live in a thatched roof is somewhat of a mystery, but let's proceed anyway) and, when it rains, they move to the outside of the roof and then slip off? Are you on some sort of medication? ] )))))

 Aiduza

link 30.03.2018 16:08 
not "inside" the roof, but "on" it:

@Another theory is that in old England, they had hay roofs on their houses and the cats and dogs would sleep on the roof. When it rained, the roofs got slippery and the cats and dogs would slide off of the roofs. There for it was "Raining Cats and Dogs".@

 Rus_Land

link 30.03.2018 16:22 
There were once a dog and a cat
Who peacefully lived in a hut.
When it rained a lot
They would run in a boat,
That funny old dog and old cat.
:)

 Susan

link 30.03.2018 20:41 
Дискляймер еще даже забавнее!
Это должны были быть очень низкие крыши, чтобы собака могла забраться.

 Bogdan_Demeshko

link 31.03.2018 15:23 
однажды попадалась статья про raining cats and dogs, этимология была другая. улицы были узкие, и когда шел лютый дождь, кошечек и собачек смывало нахер потоком воды на улице, и они такие плывут себе, плывут :)

 Shumov

link 31.03.2018 16:11 
похожая версия изложена в Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins (1977)
после ливневых паводков люди находили повсюду трупы утонувших собак и кошек, как словно бы они свалились с неба

викторианский Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable (1894) дает иную версию: в скандинавской мифологии кошка была связана с дождем (также имеется франц. поговорка, что если кошка трет за ушами - это к дождю), а собаки - с ветром, т.е. совместно они олицетворяли сильный дождь с ветром, бурю.

 

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