thanks!

Translation:
4 –Доставка
4.1 –Условия доставки
4.1.1 – Эти Условия доставки приводятся только для ознакомления. Доставка зависит от порядка полученных заказов и условий перевозчиков.
Мы стараемся придерживаться условия доставки как указано при принятии заказов и, выполняем заказы во всех ситуациях кроме тех, которых не под нашим контролем – бойкот, мороз, пожар, наводнение, эпидемия, проблемы с ресурсами или другие не указано здесь. Задержанные доставки не вызывают штрафы или возмещение, а также, не дают заказчикам право изменить заказы. Для продуктов “Bespoke”, условия доставки как указано в предварительных подсчетах, начинают, как только клиенты подтверждают сигнальный экземпляр в письменном виде.

Original:
4 – Deliveries
4.1 – Terms of delivery
4.1.1 – Terms of delivery are given for information only. Actual deliveries are subject in particular to the sequence of received orders and to the availability of carriers.
We endeavour to keep to the terms of delivery (set according to logistic lead times accepted in the trade) as stated upon acceptance of orders, and to carry out said orders, except force majeure and any circumstances beyond our control such as strikes, frost, fire, storms, floods, epidemics, supply problems or any others not herein mentioned. Delayed deliveries shall carry no penalties or compensation, nor entitle buyers to cancel their orders. For bespoke products, terms of delivery as mentioned on estimates start running once clients have endorsed the press proof in writing.

something like that,not ideal though.
Could You be so kind as to answer my question.The text given below is a clause from a Supervision Agreement. Could You tell me does it make any sense or is something missing there?hank You in advance.

UNLESS same is proved to have resulted solely from the negligence, gross negligence or wilful default of the Managers or their employees or agents, or sub-contractors employed by them in connection with the Vessel, in which case (save where loss, damage, delay or expense has resulted from the Managers' personal act or omission committed with the intent to cause same or recklessly and with knowledge that such loss, damage, delay or expense would probably result).

Astarta
thanks for the pep-up

UNLESS same is proved to have resulted solely from the negligence, gross negligence or wilful default of the Managers or their employees or agents, or sub-contractors employed by them in connection with the Vessel, in which case (save where loss, damage, delay or expense has resulted from the Managers' personal act or omission committed with the intent to cause same or recklessly and with knowledge that such loss, damage, delay or expense would probably result).

got to say, you are missing the end of it or you put the () in the wrong place.

soemtimes you really do seem to think you are too good for everyone here. sorry if it was a bad translation. i think it happens even to the best of them. i will refrain from commenting further.

НИКОГДА не беритесь переводить на русский

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клиентов жалко

look, when someone is trying to improve themselves so that maybe in less than 10 years they can start translating more complicated things from eng to russ and stop refusing difficult texts (especially since from russ to english they are VERY good) you really should try to keep your shitty opinions to yourselves if you dont like it.
its pretty hard to make me angry but to both of you i have to say that you think far too much of yourselves. as if there was never a time when you sucked as much as i do now (or were even worse)

V and Brains, you are f..g wrong because Gogolesque asked for help, not for your language of the gutter.

But I'd like to mention that 90% of translation into English, in this forum, is total crap, too. I strongly believe that a native speaker is pretty useful for both askers and helpers.

gogolesque,

Cool down, some people here are being helpful without lecturing ;-)

gogolesque, refer to http://www.miripravo.ru/ you may find a lot of useful things here, standard forms of contracts for instance.

I hope you are kidding :-)

сказали бы лучше по русски: "Гоголеск, не принимай близко к сердцу", если же хотите сказать по-английски, то так как Вы написали, не надо. doesn't make sense at all

dont pull a brains or V :) OlgaMax made sense. it wasnt that bad.... if you havent guessed this is me.. i changed my name to no one to suit better my mood on this forum :)

OlgaMax
thanks

all:
if you said something constructive, thanks. if you reverted to insulting me and my capabilities, dont know what to say other than "stuff it up your huffy butts" :)

Если уж говорить о "поддавках".
читайте пост V:

гого
совет:

НИКОГДА не беритесь переводить на русский

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клиентов жалко

К 95% посетителей форума можно сказать: НИКОГДА не беритесь переводить на английский, клиентов жалко

Вы будете считать, что это справедливо???

We had the smartest interpreter/translator in our company. He was G.D.'s personal interpreter. His English, in our opinion, was fantastic. One day there was some disagreement between him and the G.D. because the interpreter did not turn up to the meeting to provide his services. After that, a few days later, the G.D. brought the translation of an agreement (from Russian into English) done by this interpreter, and it was all red (all sentences were corrected).

so, lets drop this branch and move on with the days.

for the record: this is not something i was working on for a client (it was for me), so brains, dont worry about my clients. also, when clients do give me things which are too hard for me, i politely tell them, i can do something here, but it might suck becasue this text is above me (not in meaning but in russian langauge skills) and since most of my "clients" are people who work with me in the bank, when there are questions they just come to me. for christ's sake, they know that charters and articles of association might be too much for me now, but they want me to try to get some practice.

woo! ok.... moving on now...

V - you have some issues - thats all i will say (since i said a lot more just now and the stupid MTRAN said it saved but didnt)you were just downright cruel - not necessary at all

so the point is, i know when i take a crap on the floor like a bad do and no one needs to wipe my face in it --- i asked for help by coming here -- if i hadnt asked then we would have a problem (one you would see 10 years to late)

so lets get on with our days... and lets get on with my improvement ... not my moral beatdown (however i have noticed the trend among russians - including teachers - to be shits and tell you that you suck becasue they think you will end up working harder ---- constructive criticism is much better (thank you to the western world) so lets try a bit of that here, hmmm?

Вы будете считать, что это справедливо???

Дядь Вов, завесьте объявление, чтоли, а то как-то народ вяло реагирует.

brains you dont have to worry so much about my clients...

Молоток, Володь! Мне когда стрелки понадобится перевести, я Вам свистну, ок?

all: in case you are wondering, i registerd, so yes gogolesque2 is gogolesque

all: in case you are wondering, i registerd, so yes gogolesque2 is gogolesque

i double as an editor and translator for a bank... i want to just head on out as a translator... but without being able to go from english to russian as well as i do russian to english (with the same speed and accuracy) i am stuck in a rut here.