Subject: ОФФ: Для тех, кто сомневается :-) gen. Несколько советов от американских граммар-наци:absent, lacking -- Absent means not present or missing, lacking implies need or requirement. Data are lacking means that the data are available but we want more. accuracy, precision -- A measurement can be precise without being accurate. Precision relates to values reported in very small increments; accuracy reflects the correctness of those values. all of -- Except with pronouns, of is unneeded (e.g., all the drill bits, but all of them). allow, enable -- Allow means to not prevent from happening; enable means to facilitate happening. The construction "allow to" is not correct in English, since allow must take an object as in the following example: Unfortunately, this type does not allow programmers to use arbitrary types in the component interfaces... alternate, alternative -- Alternate means one after the other; alternative means one or the other. although, whereas -- Although means regardless of the fact that; whereas suggests but at the same time, or while on the contrary. among, between -- Use among when referring to three or more and between when referring to two (between A and B) or to reciprocal relationships shared by two or more (e.g., unitization between the operators). as much as, up to -- As much as is better than up to for describing an upper limit. Up to implies a position in space and logically should be coupled with a proceeding from. as -- Often imprecise when used as a subordinate conjunction indicating cause. Sometimes used to mean while, when, because, or since. Choose the precise word. as to whether, whether or not -- Whether is usually sufficient. assure, ensure, insure -- Assure means to encourage, ensure means to make certain. Insure should be used when referring to underwriting a loss. based on, on the basis of -- Based on modifies the noun in the main clause of the sentence; on the basis of modifies the verb. below -- Do not use as a synonym for less than. calculate, compute, determine, and estimate -- Calculate means a sophisticated mathematical operation; compute suggests straightforward arithmetic, determine means to find out exactly; estimate may involve calculations or computations, but also implies use of judgment and a result that is not necessarily exact. can, may -- Can suggests ability; may expresses permission or possibility. compare to, compare with -- Compare to implies resemblances between essentially different ideas or things; compare with implies contrasts between essentially similar ideas or things. Thus, waterflooding operations compare to gaslift operations; well 1 production compares with that of well 2. complement, compliment -- Complement means (1) fill up or make complete, or (2) the quantity required to complete something (e.g., the personnel of a ship), or (3) one of two mutually completing parts. Compliment means praise or respect. Complimentary means without cost. conduct -- Conduct is a good verb for leading an orchestra. Moreover, it is often superfluous: to conduct tests means to test. conform to, conformity with -- Conform to practice, to a design, conformable to, but in conformity with. connote, denote -- Connote is to imply; denote is to be explicit. contrast with, contrast between -- Contrast (verb) with; contrast (noun) between x and y; x is placed in contrast with y. correspond to, correspond with -- Correspond to (things), correspond with (people). currently, presently -- Currently means it is happening now. Presently means it will happen soon. data -- Takes a plural verb. Datum is singular; datums is correct for bench marks and time markers. differ from -- One thing differs from another. due to -- Use through, because of, caused by, resulting from, owing to if possible. due to the fact that -- Use because. effect, affect -- Effect means result (noun) or to bring about (verb). Affect means to influence. employed -- Use used instead. encounter -- Encounter means to meet unexpectedly, to come face to face with hostile forces. Encounter is a favorite verb of authors who prefer longer, more impressive-sounding word than meet or find. etc. -- Means and so forth and should be used at the end of a list that makes clear exactly what kinds of other things are implied. Not correct when used at the end of a list introduced by such as or for example. fact -- Actual fact and true fact are redundant expressions. All facts are true and actual. farther, further -- Use farther when distance is implied, further when referring to time or quantity. graph -- A graph (noun) is a drawing that exhibits a relationship. Use plotted (verb) when you mean to locate points or figures on a graph. having -- It is better to use with. hopefully -- Means with hope. Incorrectly used in “Hopefully, we can leave tomorrow.” Correct use would be, “‘We should be able to leave tomorrow', he said hopefully.” if, whether -- If implies uncertainty, whether implies an alternative. imply, infer -- Something suggested or indicated is implied; something deduced from evidence is inferred. A writer implies and a reader infers. in order to -- Simply use to. input -- Often used incorrectly as a verb; enter is a verb, and input is a noun. irregardless -- Incorrect; use regardless. kind, type -- Kind is the better word in reference to a general group or category. Type is better for a specific group. less, fewer -- Less refers to quantity, fewer, to number. (“We used less cement and fewer truckloads.”) limited -- Limited should be used in the sense of confined or restricted but should not be used in the sense of few, scanty, or small. located -- Use positioned instead where applicable and necessary; usually, however, just remove as redundant. none -- Uses singular verb when meaning no one or not one. only -- Only goes next to the word it modifies. “The standard is based only on data from one source.” The same rule applies to primarily, largely, principally, mainly, partly, and completely. over -- Means above in a physical sense; do not use as a substitute for more than or greater than. presently -- Change to currently or to at present principal, principle -- Principal (noun or adj.) means first or foremost. Principle (noun) means a basic truth or determined course of action. rare, scanty, scarce, sparse -- Rare denotes things very uncommon or few in total number (rare old coins). Scanty implies bare sufficiency or an inadequate quantity (scanty rainfall). Scarce applies to ordinary things locally not abundant (scarce stones, scarce vugs). Sparse means spread thinly (sparse bushes, sparse dots). significant -- Does not mean much. It means important, heaving a meaning. Do not write significant amount of oil, write much oil. since -- Implies passage of time; use because when meaning the reason for. so as to -- Use thereby. takes into account -- Use accounts for. terrain, terrane -- Terrain refers to a topographic landscape configuration (a hilly terrain). Terrane refers to a geological or lithological areal expanse (a metamorphic terrane, a heavily tectonized terrane). that, which -- That is the defining or restrictive pronoun; which is the non-defining or non-restrictive pronoun. typical -- Typical should mean just what it says: that, which typifies. Do not say a typical peak of the curve if the curve is typically flat and has just few peaks. unique -- Means without equal. There can be no degrees of uniqueness. Thus, almost unique, totally unique, partially unique, etc., are incorrect. upscale -- Use scale up as the verb form. using, by using -- Generally substitute by use of (for using) or with (for by using). utilize -- Use is preferable. via -- Means by way of in a geographical sense, not by means of. where, which -- Where refers to physical location; which (generally preceded by a preposition) refers to other circumstances, such as condition. Depending on the sentence, the preposition may be different: at which, by which, in which, with which, etc. Always separate a “which” phrase with a comma. whose, of which -- Whose refers to something owned or possessed by a person or a country; of which refers to something owned by or pertaining to a thing, such as a physical property of it. |
Спасибо за список. Ну, много чего хорошо известно переводчикам. Но "compare to" и "compare with" - это реально нацизм, имхо.:) "irregardless" - впервые вижу.:) |
merci |
compare to vs compare with примерно как уподобить и сравнить еще хороший учебник common errors (longman) спасибо |
Спасибо! |
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link 2.06.2017 11:29 |
Bultimdin, в American Dad есть серия Irregarding Steve там есть про irregardless http://youtu.be/Wp50GQiG9Lw |
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link 2.06.2017 11:31 |
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link 2.06.2017 11:32 |
у меня чет кривые руки, чтобы вставить нормально видео. Кто научит? |
whose - меня всегда смущало, что в российских учебниках пишут о возможности употребления с неодушевленными предметами. Видимо, не зря) |
"The construction "allow to" is not correct in English" "... However, the number of occurrences of this phrase in technical/academic language in the BNC query results and also in the Reuters corpus suggests that the questionable construction is starting to establish a beachhead in accepted English writing of some genres. For example, 'The bill allows to incorporate state-owned companies quickly as the first step to their privatisation.' ... |
whose с неодушевленными предметами встречается довольно часто |
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link 2.06.2017 13:10 |
не всё так однозначно (то ж американцы): http://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/since since — used to introduce a statement that explains the reason for another statement ◾Since you've finished all your chores, you may go out and play. ◾Should we invite someone else since he can't go? |
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link 2.06.2017 13:19 |
Спасибо! |
thanks |
ага, теперь оригинальные документы станет читать еще больнее)) |
Интересно ознакомиться, спасибо! |
"Bultimdin, в American Dad есть серия Irregarding Steve" Спасибо за наводку, послушал. Там над этим словом смеются. Вообще интересно, насколько часто нейтивы так говорят. Это утрирование или это реально частый случай (как, например, в русском "одеть шапку"). Может, Джон Стивенсон скажет свое слово.:) |
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link 2.06.2017 16:11 |
Спасибо большое за полезную информацию, 10-4! |
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link 2.06.2017 16:15 |
Большое спасибо! |
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link 2.06.2017 17:21 |
Джон, кстати, говорил, что whose с неодушевленными можно... |
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link 2.06.2017 17:34 |
нейтивы склонились к тому, что whose с неодушевленными иногда очень прагматично (т.е. удобно), и потому можно |
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link 2.06.2017 17:43 |
... поясню: \\\ Incorrect: \\\ The experiment, whose results are widely accepted, has not been duplicated. \\\ Correct: \\\ The experiment, the results of which are widely accepted, has not been duplicated. в примере выше использование кошерного of which не слишком отягощает, и замена на whose не очень оправдана но если фраза типа хотя пуристы и бездельники конечно негодуют (и будут негодуть) |
о, спасибо, изучу! |
Упер в анналы. Вообще, совсем недавно искал что-то по стилистике написания чисто с нефтегеологическим уклоном, и наткнулся на древнюю ветку 10-4, как раз с тем, что искал. В общем, пользуюсь случаем, чтобы выразить благодарность. |
Спасибо, Иван! |
Намотаю на одно место (в смысле на ус) |
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link 4.06.2017 13:15 |
Codeater, а что это за древняя ветка, киньте, пожалуйста, ссылочкой. А то вдруг мне тоже надо, а я и не знаю) |
Спасибо! Очень полезно и интересно, даже несмотря на то, что иногда интуитивно и так понятно. |
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