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+1 от Sjoe!

Her brightness manifests itself in various ways. Lisa is said to have an IQ of 156,[56] and in "They Saved Lisa's Brain" (season ten, 1999) she becomes a member of the Springfield chapter of Mensa.[57] When unable to attend school due to a teachers' strike in "The PTA Disbands", (season six, 1995) she suffers withdrawl symptoms because of the sudden lack of praise.[58] She even demands that her mother grade her for no obvious reason.

///SirReal: Говорить про это можно сколько угодно, да воз и ныне там... и там и останется еще очень, очень долго.///
I couldn’t disagree more with this statement and here’s why.
First and foremost, this is an industry Forum designed for the specialist, а не какой-нить там a bla-bla-bla forum for the nonspecialist.
ИМХО: The evaluation thing is round the corner, it’s in order (це на часі!), and it’s in the air. It’s coming along and it will finally come in strength - within a couple of years or so at the most! There can be no doubt about that, if this MT community desires to keep abreast of the times and doesn’t want to be pushed to the sidelines and to fall behind other professional fora.

It’s both a shame and a sad fact that some colleagues (Yippie and people of his ilk) say that because somebody wants MT Forum to be like this it will always stay that way.
Quote
if scores are not assigned,
it means - there is nobody who needs it.
It means - someone wants them not to be.
Unquote

Who is that someone?
What I see instead is that the Forum’s best ranks are getting thinner and thinner as some of its good translators are leaving in droves or show up very rarely so much are they discouraged (and not only they but the beginners as well). Can anyone tell me where they have all gone? BTW, Serge1985, thank you for your suggestion.

Regarding: “очки»
When I say “очки» I understand that it’s a bit over the top (that’s why I used inverted commas – see my topic above). But evaluation may come in other forms too. The score-based appraisal system may be a step too far and, by definition, inapplicable to MT Forum which is, and claims to be, too cool, too unique and too unbridled and wild to be constrained in such an “unsavory” way. Silly wizard said in jest a true thing here. A built-in option to unobtrusively remind/invite/encourage (pick the word!) the user rather than induce him to vote on their colleagues’ answers by putting a plus sign (or a brief comment, as the case may be) next to a successful answer would be a good idea. Интересно, что при достаточной длине ветки ответчики видят, какой ответ удался, but choose to keep mum instead except some rare occasions. Это почти бойкот, это несправедливое отношение, иными словами, it’s silent treatment, и это нечестно. Good answers should be on the surface for all to see and enjoy them, including the answerer. At the same time, the "minus" button may be dispensed with because it doesn’t serve the purpose of encouraging … one’s interest in life.

The big idea behind my proposal is to try and find ways to reward skill, toil and devotion as opposed to speed and cheapness. But today this Forum is oftentimes way too speedy and way too cheap and I don’t buy it.
A total minefield but fortune favors the brave…
///SirReal: Говорить про это можно сколько угодно, да воз и ныне там... и там и останется еще очень, очень долго.///

I couldn’t disagree more with this statement and here’s why.
First and foremost, this is an industry Forum designed for the specialist, а не какой-нить там a bla-bla-bla forum for the nonspecialist.
ИМХО: The evaluation thing is round the corner, it’s in order (це на часі!), and it’s in the air. It’s coming along and it will finally come in strength - within a couple of years or so at the most! There can be no doubt about that, if this MT community desires to keep abreast of the times and doesn’t want to be pushed to the sidelines and to fall behind other professional fora.

It’s both a shame and a sad fact that some colleagues (Yippie and people of his ilk) say that because somebody wants MT Forum to be like this it will always stay that way.
Quote
if scores are not assigned,
it means - there is nobody who needs it.
It means - someone wants them not to be.
Unquote

Who is that someone?
What I see instead is that the Forum’s best ranks are getting thinner and thinner as some of its good translators are leaving in droves or show up very rarely so much are they discouraged (and not only they but the beginners as well). Can anyone tell me where they have all gone? BTW, Serge1985, thank you for your suggestion.

Regarding: “очки»
When I say “очки» I understand that it’s a bit over the top (that’s why I used inverted commas – see my topic above). But evaluation may come in other forms too. The score-based appraisal system may be a step too far and, by definition, inapplicable to MT Forum which is, and claims to be, too cool, too unique and too unbridled and wild to be constrained in such an “unsavory” way. Silly wizard said in jest a true thing here. A built-in option to unobtrusively remind/invite/encourage (pick the word!) the user rather than induce him to vote on their colleagues’ answers by putting a plus sign (or a brief comment, as the case may be) next to a successful answer would be a good idea. Интересно, что при достаточной длине ветки ответчики видят, какой ответ удался, but choose to keep mum instead except some rare occasions. Это почти бойкот, это несправедливое отношение, иными словами, it’s silent treatment, и это нечестно. Good answers should be on the surface for all to see and enjoy them, including the answerer. At the same time, the "minus" button may be dispensed with because it doesn’t serve the purpose of encouraging … one’s interest in life.

The big idea behind my proposal is to try and find ways to reward skill, toil and devotion as opposed to speed and cheapness. But today this Forum is oftentimes way too speedy and way too cheap and I don’t buy it.

A total minefield but fortune favors the brave…
///SirReal: Говорить про это можно сколько угодно, да воз и ныне там... и там и останется еще очень, очень долго.///

I couldn’t disagree more with this statement and here’s why.
First and foremost, this is an industry Forum designed for the specialist, а не какой-нить там a bla-bla-bla forum for the nonspecialist.
ИМХО: The evaluation thing is round the corner, it’s in order (це на часі!), and it’s in the air. It’s coming along and it will finally come in strength - within a couple of years or so at the most! There can be no doubt about that, if this MT community desires to keep abreast of the times and doesn’t want to be pushed to the sidelines and to fall behind other professional fora.

It’s both a shame and a sad fact that some colleagues (Yippie and people of his ilk) say that because somebody wants MT Forum to be like this it will always stay that way.
Quote
if scores are not assigned,
it means - there is nobody who needs it.
It means - someone wants them not to be.
Unquote

Who is that someone?
What I see instead is that the Forum’s best ranks are getting thinner and thinner as some of its good translators are leaving in droves or show up very rarely so much are they discouraged (and not only they but the beginners as well). Can anyone tell me where they have all gone? BTW, Serge1985, thank you for your suggestion.

Regarding: “очки»
When I say “очки» I understand that it’s a bit over the top (that’s why I used inverted commas – see my topic above). But evaluation may come in other forms too. The score-based appraisal system may be a step too far and, by definition, inapplicable to MT Forum which is, and claims to be, too cool, too unique and too unbridled and wild to be constrained in such an “unsavory” way. Silly wizard said in jest a true thing here. A built-in option to unobtrusively remind/invite/encourage (pick the word!) the user rather than induce him to vote on their colleagues’ answers by putting a plus sign (or a brief comment, as the case may be) next to a successful answer would be a good idea. Интересно, что при достаточной длине ветки ответчики видят, какой ответ удался, but choose to keep mum instead except some rare occasions. Это почти бойкот, это несправедливое отношение, иными словами, it’s silent treatment, и это нечестно. Good answers should be on the surface for all to see and enjoy them, including the answerer. At the same time, the "minus" button may be dispensed with because it doesn’t serve the purpose of encouraging … one’s interest in life.

The big idea behind my proposal is to try and find ways to reward skill, toil and devotion as opposed to speed and cheapness. But today this Forum is oftentimes way too speedy and way too cheap and I don’t buy it.

///But today this Forum is oftentimes way too speedy and way too cheap and I don’t buy it.///
It’s not like anyone forces you to, is it? There are other forums out there, to say nothing of entire “other spheres”, which you said in your last post were beckoning – what has become of that, by the way?

> this is an industry Forum designed for the specialist, а не какой-нить там a bla-bla-bla forum for the nonspecialist
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