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 gripsik

link 18.07.2006 8:56 
Subject: begin vs. start
what is better "a kid started walking" or "a kid began walking" meaning "ребенок начал ходить"? Can anybody explain the difference between these verbs if there is any?

Thanks to everybody. Sorry for disturbing :)

 kinsman

link 18.07.2006 9:02 
Если честно, то разницы особой нет, хотя предпочтительным вариантом, наверное будет start.
Но вот к примеру в устойчивых выражениях, разница есть.
Допустим, пойти в школу, лучше сказать start school, чем не begin school.
Я бы употребил start и не стал бы париться.

 Скай

link 18.07.2006 9:05 
Вебстер:
synonyms BEGIN, COMMENCE, START, INITIATE, INAUGURATE, USHER IN mean to take the first step in a course, process, or operation. BEGIN, START, and COMMENCE are often interchangeable. BEGIN, opposed to end, is the most general < begin a trip> < began dancing>. START, opposed to stop, applies especially to first actions, steps, or stages < the work started slowly>. COMMENCE can be more formal or bookish than BEGIN or START < commence firing> < commenced a conversation>. INITIATE implies taking a first step in a process or series that is to continue < initiated diplomatic contacts>. INAUGURATE suggests a beginning of some formality or notion of significance < the discovery of penicillin inaugurated a new era in medicine>. USHER IN is somewhat less weighty than INAUGURATE < ushered in a period of economic decline>.

 Shumov

link 18.07.2006 9:10 
имхо

во многих сл. взаимозаменяемы. Однако "старт" подразумевает какую-то более четко определенную начальную отметку (во времени или пространстве), тогда как "бегин" переносит смысловой акцент с момента совершения действия на само действие.

start walking - пойти, сдвинуться с места
bеgin walking - начать ходить

 gripsik

link 18.07.2006 9:17 
A lot of thanks to everybody. Now it is clear!

 gogolesque2

link 18.07.2006 9:25 
in your case it really is just a matter of personal taste.
i like began walking better but i really just like the construction ...began doing something...

 Slava

link 18.07.2006 9:29 
gogolesque2:
do Americans use "begin" at all (in conversation, I mean)? I thought "start" is more common.

 gogolesque2

link 18.07.2006 9:31 
americans usually use start

i prefer begin - i think it makes things sound nicer. say out loud a sentence with begin and one with start. the one with start sounds harder and is more unpleasing to the ear.

 Franky

link 18.07.2006 9:32 
to Slava "I thought "start" WAS more common"
:))))))

 gogolesque2

link 18.07.2006 9:37 
franky and slava
more common or no, it is a matter of personal taste. you can use either in this situation. the asker just has to decide which one he/she likes a bit more than the other

 Slava

link 18.07.2006 9:49 
thanks :-)

Franky:
придирки неуместны.
Вы же не скажете I thought Putin WAS president of Russia.
Грамматика, однако.
:-)

 Franky

link 18.07.2006 9:56 
не знаю, не знаю...
меня в школе учили, что времена надо согласовывать. и в приведенном Вами предложении я бы так и сказал.

 gogolesque2

link 18.07.2006 9:59 
actually you would say "i thought putin was the president of russia"
and "i thought start was more common"

this is the proper construction. sorry slava

 

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