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 ЛенаШ

link 27.07.2004 13:57 
Subject: 20 tons of metal was или were produced
Хелп, совсем заработалась. Какое число у глагола в предложениях такого рода. Вроде бы тонны мн.ч, но берут сомнения.

20 tons of metal was или were produced

Thanks a lot in advance:)

 серёга

link 27.07.2004 14:03 
все правильно, were

 10-4

link 27.07.2004 15:04 
Только WAS! Подпробности смю в Style Guide на "ССЫЛКАХ"

 10-4

link 27.07.2004 15:08 
Certain nouns and pronouns called collectives may take either plural or singular verbs as predicates, depending on the meaning being conveyed. If the noun or pronoun is viewed collectively as a unit or expresses an amount or measure, its verb is singular; if viewed as separate items, the verb should be plural.
Examples (correct)
About 3000 tons of oil was produced. (A quantity weighting, in all, about 3000 tons).
At this place, 10 meters of sandstone is exposed. (A single exposure).
Twenty-two grams of sample was dissolved in 20 ml of acid. (A single measurement)
Four-fifths of the country is satisfied with its health insurance. (One part of a whole)
Before 1940, less than 10% of production was from opencast mines (Again one part of a whole)
Tweny thousand US dollars is less than the real cost is (A single sum of money)
The United States protects its natural resources. (One country)
Three samples were placed on the table. (Three individual samples).
None is singular when it means no one or no thing; it is plural when means no persons or no things. Each and every are usually singular in usage.

 V

link 27.07.2004 17:19 
WAS, of course.
If you say WERE, it's as though you cherish and remember personally every f@cking ton they produced.

 Рудут

link 27.07.2004 17:21 
lol

 V

link 27.07.2004 17:23 
2 Rudut - what's lol?

 Рудут

link 27.07.2004 17:31 
lol = laugh out loud, internationally recognised abbreviation used in internet (like IMHO) showing that someone's message was very funny.

 Slava

link 28.07.2004 6:29 
В данном случае действительно нужен контекст. А правило простое: если просто было произведено 20 тонн, то WERE produced. А если типа "партия" там или очередная норма в 20 тонн, то WAS: (another) 20 tons was produced. Надо ориентироваться на слово в скобках (another): если оно подходит по смыслу, пишите ед. число.

 V

link 28.07.2004 12:35 
Slava, ple-e-e-ase, don't confuse kids.
In Lena III's example, it's WAS. Period.

 Slava

link 29.07.2004 6:19 
V, при всем уважении, у меня грамматика никогда не хромала :-). Может быть, здесь и was, но контекст все-таки нужен, имхо.

 

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