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| link 29.06.2018 10:51 |
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Subject: Какая транслитерация корректна? gen.
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мы это обсуждали на немецком форуме http://a-fixx.livejournal.com/193926.html кликнуть на "Споём «Чижей» под Бетховена?" |
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"This video is unavailable" Но я уже под бернштейновскую версию спел)) |
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link 14.07.2018 20:40 |
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Dmitry G: Apologies for the late reply, I've been away visiting friends and so haven't been on MT. ** BTW, how would you transliterate such last names as Сергеев, Андреев, Фадеев and the like? ** Personally I'd transliterate them Sergeyev, Andreyev and Fadeyev respectively, but I repeat that that's just one of several options that are available. I'd use -eyev (with an added y) rather than -eev only because 'ee' in English (as in 'keep', 'steel' etc) is normally pronounced 'ий' – and you don't want an English reader with no knowledge of Russian to think that the names are pronounced Сергийв, Андрийв and Фадийв respectively. |
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johnstephenson, you're my man! :) I know a doctor in the UK whose surname is Makeyeva, she's originally from Russia, and her surname was spelled as Makeeva in her passport, so she told me all her British colleagues would pronounce it as Mac-Eva ("Макива", с ударением на протяжный "и"). |
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In Kazakhstan, they generally transliterate "еев" as "eyev" and "ьев" as "yev", e.g.
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link 15.07.2018 14:09 |
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Aiduza 2:01: Exactly. I know of a Polish dentist in the UK who's called Mr Wójcicki (войцицкий). His receptionists all tried to pronounce his name but eventually gave up and now just call him "Mr Widgetski". Unfortunately 'widget' = 'штуковина'! |
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link 15.07.2018 14:46 |
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Also, I didn't realise that Kazakhstan's official name for itself in English is 'Kazakstan'. Unfortunately no-one in the UK/US takes any notice of this, as almost everyone here spells it 'Kazakhstan' – perhaps due to the Russian influence during the Soviet era? On the other hand, almost everyone here pronounces Никита Хрущёв's name "Крущёв". Brits and Americans are notorious for mis-pronouncing – anglicising, or just screwing up – foreign words/names. |
| Kazakhstan is currently the official name of the country. It was spelled differently (as shown on the scan above) for a few years in the past, but not anymore. Soon the country name is going to change again - this time to Qazaqstan. |
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I can't help but wonder: what could the "Russian influence" possibly have to do with the letter "h"(which obviously hails from the Must be Russian meddling again.. :-( Aiduza, PS France scores! |
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correction: France score! ''s'' is obviously redundant there |
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link 15.07.2018 15:27 |
| Aiduza: I see. Peking - Beijing, Leningrad - St Petersburg, Salisbury - Harare, Bombay - Mumbai.... Where next? It's all very confusing.... :-) |
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link 15.07.2018 15:33 |
| mikhailS: Not a Latin 'h', but 'kh' – a transliteration of the 'х' in the Russian name for it! I'm suggesting that we possibly just copied the Russian spelling. |
| А почему открыто публикуете паспортные и прочие данные человека? |
| Потому что они находятся в открытом доступе, и не я этот скан опубликовал (на картинке указан вебсайт), и вообще паспорт этот давно просрочен. Наберите в поиске по картинкам в Гугле Kazakhstan passport, много чего найдете. |
| Теперь успокоился, правдолюб? :) |
| Вот тыкать и вешать ярлыки не стоит, гусей Вам пасти не помогал. Меня вполне устроил ответ в 19.42. Второй уже избыточен. |
| а гуси таки запомнились!)) |
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Wójcicki (войцицкий) А разве не Вуйцицки(й)? |
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link 16.07.2018 15:31 |
| edasi: I thought of using 'у' instead of 'о' as it's a Polish 'ó' rather than an 'o', but I opted for 'о' on balance. Your transliteration could be closer, however. It's not 'Уйджицкий', though! |
| 失礼しました |
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я полезла в гуглопереводчик и, естессно, сначала запихнула в китайский получилось: Бестактность TA ши ма ши :-) |
| Как можно совать в китайский хирагану? Это выше моего понимания. Впрочем, 失礼しました |
| edasi, ну не сердитесь на темноту необразованную, потом я всё-таки разобралась :-) |
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а то ещё хангыль за иероглифы принимают устал делать замечания и опустил руки |
| какие интересные слова на хи- и ха- :-) |
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лишь бы день начинался и кончался тобой на тебе сошёлся клином белый свет какие старые слова а как кружится голова (из пошлого советского анекдота про слово на х- :-)) |
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